Again Courier Owner-Drivers v Courier Companies

What’s the point of owner-drivers being able to post GTMs then? By your new definition they’d be a ‘company’ straight away if they subbed a job out.

Posted under Courier and Freight Exchanges

Posted by Alec at 5:29 pm, July 17, 2007

7 Comments so far

  1. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 17:57

    No, an owner-driver is always a business but he/she can never be a company. A company is a distinct legal entity (a legal ‘person’) and must be registered with Companies House. If an owner-driver works through a company then he’s an employee of the company and usually wouldn’t actually be an ‘owner-driver’ since the vehicle would be owned by the company, not him.
    None of which is relevant to the courier ‘Network’s definition of an owner-driver…..

  2. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 19:18

    I didn’t say it was only LIMITED companies Pat. That has no bearing on your next point anyway: if you operate as a ‘company’ in the UK then you have to register with Companies House.

    Surely the legal status of your business is a partnership rather than a company anyway?

  3. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 19:26

    Sorry Pat, I read “is it” (a question) as “it is” (a statement). As I’ve just said, no it isn’t. And I don’t think your business is a company.

  4. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 19:49

    How about forgetting about the vehicle numbers/office/etc argument and allowing ‘subby’ subscribers to only post a limited amount (say 5?) of GTMs each month. If they want to post more as their businesses expand they could change to the ‘enterprise’ subscription. In fact why couldn’t the different levels of ‘enterprise’ allow the posting of different numbers of GTM?

  5. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 19:51

    Is there a viable alternative to ‘Network’ Paul? I’ve not found one.

  6. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 19:57

    So if it’s that valuable to you Mick then surely it’s worth the extra £5/week for the ‘enterprise’ subscription?

    We fit the profile of ‘owner-driver’ as closely as many of the members who are registered as O/Ds. We’re happy to pay the ‘enterprise’ subscription though because it’s clear that it’s intended to include companies like ours. I could argue that it’s unfair for you to have access to exactly the same facilities as us while paying a lower subscription.

  7. Alec added on  July 17th, 2007 at 20:07

    Why would anyone leave Paul? If posting GTMs on here makes you money then why shouldn’t you be prepared to pay for it?

    There are plenty of ‘companies’ on here who are currently paying the same subs as members with £1m+ turnover yet only using the site to bid on GTMs or to get backloads. Maybe they post a couple of GTMs a month, when they’re double booked, sick or whatever. They have to be registered as companies because they’re a father & son operation or whatever. Those are exactly the members that the main alternative site may be atttractive to. Why SHOULD they pay for a service that they have no use for?

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